"For Sweden" (rallybeetle) 03/07/2014 at 20:24 • Filed to: planelopnik

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Malaysian Airlines and ATC have just lost contact with a 777 enroute to Beijing. I don't know any details, but in my professional opinion, that means hull loss. I hope I'm wrong.
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jkm7680 > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 20:26

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Just saw the article on Msn. I hope everything turns out good for the passengers. Make sure to post an update!

For Sweden > jkm7680 03/07/2014 at 20:36

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The odds of anyone surviving an event that causes sudden loss of radar contact is nil, but I'm still hoping.

jkm7680 > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 20:38

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Yeah, got to keep hope though, The flight is also a couple hours late. Hope for the best, expect the worse.

Jonny Edge (@thejonnyedge) > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 20:38

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What sort of thing causes an accident that bad?

 > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 20:39

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That sucks. Looking at the flight path if it crashed it would be somewhere over Vietnam or Cambodia.

For Sweden > Jonny Edge (@thejonnyedge) 03/07/2014 at 20:48

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Many different things, but I can use a recent incident as an example: Air France 447.

During AF447, the A330 flew through heavy icing conditions around thunderstorms over the Atlantic. In this icing condition, the Pitot tubes iced over. This caused the indicated airspeed to become so inconsistent that the autopilot disconnected. Suddenly the pilots had manual control with an inaccurate airspeed indicator. The crew made a wrong decision based on bad data, stalled the wing, and the aircraft plunged into the sea.

For Sweden >  03/07/2014 at 20:49

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It could be ValuJet all over again.

Jcarr > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 20:56

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Hope things turn out ok. The 777 is one of the most graceful looking airliners, in my opinion, and has a pretty stellar safety record (only 3 hull loss incidents to date, and only a handful of fatalities).

desertdog5051 > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 21:11

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Much sad. Hope all turns out well.

Bird > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 21:37

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In that particular example, is there some sort of training that pilots go through to deal with an erroneous data situation?

That made me think of the 737 backwards rudder issue...that was much worse, but if I recall that updated training procedures after that right? In an attempt to train pilots to recognize the malfunction in enough time to react?

For Sweden > Bird 03/07/2014 at 22:11

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Yes, if they remember is another story.

ttyymmnn > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 22:32

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" result unknown " Not good.

f86sabre > For Sweden 03/07/2014 at 23:08

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My thoughts are with the passengers, crew and their families. There aren't too many scenarios I can think of where you would loose a modern plane like a 777 without an squawk. Reminds me a bit of the Air France A330.

user314 > For Sweden 03/08/2014 at 15:17

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If anyone's following this thread, searchers have reported a 12-mile slick in the Gulf of Thailand, though it's not direct evidence of a crash yet. Also, two of the reported passengers may have been using stolen passports.